Banner ads

[lungfish]

I need an answer about banner ads :unsure:

I'd like to use banner ads to advertise some of my programs but am having a crisis :o

I don't have my own website to download and host them on, and I don't want to filch someone elses bandwidth. :(

So what do I do? :huh:

Are some banners OK to place straight onto someone elses site? :ph34r:

[Lene]

I can host them for you unless you are a real heavy hitter getting huge amounts of traffic :D

There are some image hosting services, but I don't know any..

[D.Koenemann]

You might check out http://photobucket.com

I have been told that they have a good service for free, but I don't know for sure.

Email Pete at webmaster@trafficg.com

He will provide image hosting at VERY low cost....(if you don't find a free one that is).

Still checking for others!


D.Koenemann

[Lene]

I never post e-mails on boards or public sites. That's a great way to receive spam.
I usually type something like lene*smartztart.com / lene (at) smartztart (dot) com or similar.

Photobucket.com terms:

Photobucket.com reserves the right to disable direct linking on user accounts that are using excessive bandwidth or otherwise abusing the system.

[VamPvixen]

Check the page where the programe has the banner code for you to use>
If it has the whole intact code there then it is fine to use it as is.
If the code is not intact (you can tell its not complete if they have something like "www.yoursite.com" in the code), then they prefer you to host it on your own site.

[Lene]

I think they always write that you should download the images.

Most of the times I have run PTC (paid to click) I have just linked to their site, but some have activated hotlink protection on their servers to avoid this direct linking to images.

[rabsonja]

Hello!
But I also have a question? What is the smartest way to advertise? Banner or PTC? I had once really success with banners, than again nothing.

For me nearly always the PTC makes the decision: Join or not Join?

Would really love to know, how others think about this and how you decide to join a programm or not to join... :huh:

And what about email-ads? How succsessfull they are?

How much referals can I expect ca from 10,000 banners of a good programm?

A good Co-Effect of this business: My English is getting better(i hope so) :rolleyes:

Anyway, I hope, someone can give me answers...

Thank U all in Advance!

Have a great day!!!
Rabsonja

[Lene]

I would say PTC is better, as you know you will receive a certain
amount of hits to your site.

Banner views are no effective way of advertising on PTR sites,
but your results depends on many factors such as.

- What site your banner is on
- Where the banners are located on the site
- How good your banner is
- How new the program you advertise is


Paid e-mails is in my opinion the best, as you will receive unique
visitors. Not all users visit the PTC section, so it may be the same
users clicking your banner every 24 hours.
Also you can write a good ad.


I think I should move this discussion to the paid to read section
and continue it there :)

[D.Koenemann]

Hi rabsonja,

Let me see if I can answer some of your questions, and I am sure some of the others will add their input as well. :)

There are a lot of people that will say banner advertising is dead or very ineffective. That is really not the case however. If you can create a very unique banner that catches the eye and arouses ones curiousity it can work quite well. In my honest opinion they are often times underated in their effectiveness. The key thing is to use a tracking link so that you can see what kinds of results you are getting with a particular banner. With this information you can tweak and adjust until you find what works for you and the program you are advertising.

Most times if you have the budget to work with PTC is going to produce better results. Mainly because you are receiving a more targeted customer. They are usually going to click because of something that peaked their interest in your ad.
Also you are only going to be paying for actual clicks on your link. So if you carefully pick your key words, you can receive a very targeted customer that is looking for what you have to offer. Then it is up to your sales letter on your site to close the sale. Most important thing to remember is to work out a budget of what you can afford and stick to it. Keep tweaking and adjusting your key words until you find the magic combo that works. Again as above you should always be using a tracking link so that you know your results for every little change you make. Don't make big drastic changes, just small little changes at a time and watch your results till you get the result you want. :)

Email ads can be very effective especially if you are working with a responsive list.
Ideally this is a list of contacts that you have made and built a trusting relationship with. If they have come to know you and feel that they can trust your judgement an email from you advertising a quality program or product can get you astronomical results. That is why you always hear and see the statement, "The Money Is In The List!" Build a good working relationship with your contacts, offer them help or find things of value that you can offer your contacts for free when possible. Don't bombard them with a constant stream of mail, and don't just always be trying to sell them something. Try and get to know them and their wants and needs, then be the source they can go to for those things. :D
Again make sure you use a tracking link to measure your results so that you can adjust as necessary.

Yes marketing on the net is the way a lot of people have learned and improved their English. You are and will do even better. You are always welcome to PM me anything that you would like me to help proof read for you, I am not perfect but I can help some. I will try and respond as quickly as possible. Sometimes it may take a few hours for me to get back to you as I get pretty busy sometimes, but I will always respond as soon as possible. That is a promise! Also if for some reason I am not able to help you, I will do my best to find someone who can. :D

I hope I have answered some of your questions, and I am quite sure you will get some other responses also. :)

D.Koenemann

[antinomy]

Originally posted by lungfish@Apr 27 2004, 01:50 PM
I need an answer about banner ads :unsure:

I'd like to use banner ads to advertise some of my programs but am having a crisis :o

I don't have my own website to download and host them on, and I don't want to filch someone elses bandwidth. :(

So what do I do? :huh:

Are some banners OK to place straight onto someone elses site? :ph34r:
Just spotted the thread - I've been a bit busy of late cleaning up a machine after my son downloaded a game.... the joys of technology.

Regarding banners - I've found that at least 95% of sites require you to run the banners from your own site.

The good news is that there are a number of ways to get a "free" page or two and space to store most images. It's a good idea to set them up with the referral code as well so you can have all the html in one place. If you need help doing this, I am happy to help.

If you're really stuck to find some space, I can let you use some space off of one of my domains for a nominal fee (just don't give out the location except in adverts).

[Lene]

Could you post any links to free websites that allow this?

I think Lungfish is not the only one that could need this.

[D.Koenemann]

Hi rabsonja,

I owe you an apology in the respose to your question on PTC and how well they work, the info I gave is more geared toward PPC. Some of what I told you applies though.

I had just come in from a shift of 9 hours in a friends factory, I am trying to help him through a tuff time. I did not realize I had made the mistake until after I went to bed. So again I apologize for the wrong answer.

If there is anything else you need assistance on just ask! :D

D.Koenemann

[rabsonja]

Originally posted by D.Koenemann@May 15 2004, 04:40 PM
Hi rabsonja,

I owe you an apology in the respose to your question on PTC and how well they work, the info I gave is more geared toward PPC. Some of what I told you applies though.

I had just come in from a shift of 9 hours in a friends factory, I am trying to help him through a tuff time. I did not realize I had made the mistake until after I went to bed. So again I apologize for the wrong answer.

If there is anything else you need assistance on just ask! :D

D.Koenemann
Hi D.!
Don't mind, everybody makes mistakes sometimes... ;)
Anyway I only advertise if I can reedem somewhere. But still, good results are nice to see. At the moment I'm trying out which possibility is the best for me, I advertised at different sites in different ways and now I'm waiting what will happen... :rolleyes:
I think that's the best possibility to find out what works for my specific programms.
For Example, at bank-mails banners run very fast and from 20,000 Banner-Impressions I get 9 referals for one programm!!! (Digital-Mails) As I heard from my neighbour, this happens only really rare...
I think that it was the luck of a totally beginner, it was my first advertising ever... :)
At other sites banners run slower, but I think this also has it's good sides. People have more time to get familar with the programm, and if they don't sign up the first time that they see it, maybe they sign up if they saw it a few times. That can mean surprises when you have a few more at once, and it also feels nice :D
I'm thinking a lot of this and bu the time and with more experience in advertising, it will go good...

Have a nice Sunday and thanks for your really caretaking answers!
Friendly Greetings from Rabsonja!!!

[rabsonja]

Hi D!
At the moment I'm really happy because I saw now that I've a few referals in second level now at Digital-Mails :D
And this means that my referals are busy and active also.

I'm german, but I live in Netherlands now - an escalated summer-romance... :D
And here I also found out that I like working at computers and that I like this kind of Business at most. My boyfriend gave the business now in my hands because he saw, I'm getting success, slowly but sure. He also had a few sites, not really good ones, but good enough, to make me interrested.

Anyway, I'm happy with the sites I have now, and slowly but sure business starts running. And more than those 15 sites now I can't do, I also want to have time for my boyfriend and our friends we have here. And the whole summer sitting behind the PC, while the others have fun at the beach... no thanks!

And I already saw people who became addicted for this (I won't say, that I'm not addicted ;) ) and they have 100 sites running now, but no life apart from the PC anymore.
Already with 15 sites it's a lot of work if you are engaged, 3 or 4 hours daily. My record was 10 hours without a break ad I looked like a zombie afterwards... :D

Anyway, thanks for your help-offers, I think I'll coming back to this just a few times ( I'm a newbie, don't forget :) ) but now I have to go. 30 Mails are waiting to be clicked...

Friendly Greetings from Rabsonja!!!

Have a nice day!!!

[Lene]

What browser are you using?
There are some tips in the Get Paid section about how
to click many e-mails fast.

Also beware that there are many scams out there :(
People that put up their sites with no intention of paying.

That's why I prefer sites like money-for-emails, mistyandsamscash
(I have joined a few), because even though they don't pay
as much pr e-mail, I know they will pay when I reach payout.

Another site known to pay its members is mec-co-op-paidmail

And allyousubmitters, but it takes a long time..
Did you get paid yet VampVixen?

[D.Koenemann]

I am happy for you also! :D

Ah to be so young and in love too! That is great.

My wife and I just celebrated our 25th wedding anniversary this last Wednesday, it does not seem possible that it has been that many years. I guess time flies when you're having fun! :lol: :lol:

Please do check in here regularly. Lene and VampVixen and Antimony are very experienced with your type of programs. They can help you avoid the scams and give you tips to help you be successful with them.

That is a goal of Downline4All, not just helping build your downlines, but helping you avoid the scams and sharing the knowledge that some of us have acquired. If we can help you have a good experience and gain some success then we all feel our time is well spent. :lol:

D.Koenemann

[Lene]

Antinomy and Vamp is the GPTR "Masters" :lol:
I have joined a few (well, starting to become more than a few,
but not getting addicted like the rest of you ;) )

I am more into MLM, and these days getting hooked on
promoting search portals. It is almost like a small gamle, never
know if you will earn or not, but once I've found a site that gives
good results I can continue promoting and get the same good
results.

The results don't decrease like they will in GPTR programs unless
you find a way to target a market outside of the GPTR programs.