E2A is scam site ??? tell me more.....

[sinhkhuong]

is that true ? please show me !! thanksss !!

[orc]

Yes, it's true, it's a SCAM PTR :(

[jim]

I joined there a while ago. About 2 weeks later, I couldn't log in? I know I didn't violate any Terms. I wrote them a few e-mails, never got a reply. If I had been a long time member with a downline, I probably would have been mad, but in this case I could care less. Since then, all I have read about them on the web is that they don't pay, people just make earnings and then redeem for ads then get out. Sounds like a scam to me, considering they claim to pay out after $70, but as far as I can tell they are an Ads only site. Just my thoughts.

Good luck,
Jim

[Awal2125]

I'm a member of Earnings 2 All and I recently requested payout. I know their terms say 60-90 days or something like that. I'll let everyone know if I ever get paid. So far, I haven't had any problems with logging into my account so we wil see.

[Gnida_M]

E2A is 1000% SCAM but... it's very good 2 advertise your other PTR's :)

P.S. don't try request $-out - u lose your earnings


Andrew

[antinomy]

I lost my membership when I had some computer problems and couldn't get on line.

Let's hold out on the scam labels until we have more evidence. I know that we have several members at D4A with accounts.

From what I've read above here are the stats (Please feel free to add your PERSONAL experience below):


Waiting for payout - 1 person waiting having redeemed sucessfully
Redemption for ads - 1 person who apparently uses it to advertise another site
Deletion for not following the terms - 2

As the FRONT Page says if you don't click every 9 days, they have honoured their terms.

Let me make it clear that everyone is entitled to their personal opinions.

If you say it's a scam site, you will be asked to provide the evidence.

You'll can find virtually EVERY Program Owner labelled a SCAMMER at other forums - please don't copycat the tendency here.

We'd rather focus on finding the best sites for our members to join and build and active downline.

One good program and One active clicker is worth their weight in gold!

[ccrazieprsn]

Hi all, I was just 3 dollars away from the $70 payout when my redemption changed to $85! I decided to redeem for ad and got 9500 clicks in a little over a week. Seems to be a great site for advertising, but I have yet to see proof that they acually paid anybody. <_<

[Lene]

I'm sorry to say it, but this site we don't need any more
evidence from Antinomy.. :(

There is a reason why everyone is redeeming their
earnings for ads..

However, I do understand your concern about labeling programs
a scam. A lot of people simply don't have any business sense
at all. The reason for not paying isn't always that it's a scam,
but often because the owner have absolutely no sense of business
and how to manage money.

[antinomy]

I guess I had a lucky escape when my PC went down! There's always a silver lining.

I just hope all my earnings weren't deleted from my up line like they do in some other programs.

If it's that bad on the inside, then it's probably worth paying as an advertiser to pick up people.

I did want to make the distinction between KNOWN SCAMMERS (eg cashread, email2rewards, etc) and those where the jury is still out.

To me, redeeming for ads because you'll never make payout is not a scam site - just you'll never see the cash.

Thanks for the word of warning - I won't join this one again! It's a shame those promoting e2a all over the place aren't as well informed!

Great value from D4A I say!

[Gnida_M]

now site changes $-out sum $85
i c it today

[jim]

Originally posted by antinomy@Jul 8 2004, 12:19 PM
To me, redeeming for ads because you'll never make payout is not a scam site - just you'll never see the cash.
I disagree. Where I have a problem with E2A is that they say nothing about being an Ads only site, and they even have a redemption area and have info in the FAQ regarding what payment processors they will pay to. So you can click to have your Payout sent to egold, but you will only have that much taken out of your E2A earnings to never see it again, not even for Ads. That is a Scam if you ask me. If you want Ads, why not support a site that makes it clear they are an Ads Only site? Just my opinion.

Jim

[antinomy]

I had no idea they were simply docking the money on payout redemption and not paying. No one else has mentioned it. Electing to redeem for advertising isn't fraud - unless the ads don't run (in which case it is).

I come from a family of complainers who never changed much except what they were moaning about and putting down everyone - including screaming at the television as though the people on it could hear them every five minutes (no kidding either). I had to spend a long time to change my thinking from being a willing doormat to be assertive about my rights.

This bit is long and I hope you'll use it wisely: I believe in taking EFFECTIVE ACTION.

The best way to hurt scammers is in their pocket books - so shut down their accounts.

1. e-gold

If they have done what you say, then write to service @ e- gold . com (spaces added to avoid spiders).

Make a complaint that this person was supposed to pay you gold in return for a service and ask to shut down the account

2. Paypal

Go to the security section and post and arbitration request because you gave them a service and you haven't been paid.


If enough people complain effectively (and courteously) to the the payment providers, you'll find the scammers are cut off from their funds... they can't take money out and no one can pay in!

Final note on accounts: Be viligant! In the HYIP world, scammers set up a series of accounts and move the money very quickly. Most of these are e-gold payments and there is no redress. I've seen cases where the scammer changed the payment code to a new address. The moral - keep an eye out for changes.

Now for the REALLY GOOD stuff... remember they are now poorer than their membership (who can choose to stop clicking at any time - so there would be an implosion - eg more people stopped, the numbers would drop more quickly - and advertisers would leave too)

1. The hosting company: Complain to the hosting firm about the fraud. If they don't take effective action, they could be arrested for aiding and abetting possible money laundering and fraudulent activity. State that the owner has not been in compliance with the terms and agreements of your contract (yes take dated screen shots).

2. The ISP sending the emails: If there is fraudent activity, then this is spam and can be prosecuted under international laws... Check the full headers on every mail you've had.

3. Class Action - collect enough people together who have been ripped off and you could wind up putting them behind bars for a stretch.

4. Post a complaint at GPTBOYCOTT - I can never remember which is which (and only one is for real).. If you're a member of any of the site listed, you are wasting your time as there is hard proof that You Will NEVER See the CASH!

I'm running out of steam here as I've picked up my son's virus and I've been up feeling rotten for about 20 hours.... Someone else care to pick up the ball and help everyone get some redress?

[ambrosia]

Thanks for the warning. I'm a member of this site and I was just looking at my current earnings. I'll just use it for ads ;)

[Andre]

Originally posted by ambrosia@Jul 9 2004, 01:40 AM
Thanks for the warning. I'm a member of this site and I was just looking at my current earnings. I'll just use it for ads ;)
I think that would be very wise of you ;)