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Dannyboyonline
07-26-2004, 04:34 PM
Can anyone tell me other means i could use to sell these packages pls?

Andre
07-26-2004, 04:39 PM
What are your routines now, except from
advertising in marketing forums?

Dannyboyonline
07-26-2004, 05:13 PM
Well I am buying loads of banner impressions, to advertise some of my offers. And i'm getting quite a good responce, I have just started an IRC server for direct contact with anyone who wants to customise his packages.

I was going to start sellng in PT bidding sites, but I dont realy thing I will get enough response.

I'm also building a site with direct links to e-gold what will automaticly take care of payments

Andre
07-26-2004, 05:56 PM
Personally I think you are doing fine,
I am 100% sure that if you get your
website up and try your very best to
capture their email address so you
send them "special deals" once a
month or something, you will have
a good consept with lojal customars.

It takes about 3 years to build up a
business, and allmoust all your income
the first year in advertising.

After that it is very normal to use
about 40% of all positive income
in advertising.

It is hard, but I beleve that good client
follow up and reinvestement will get
you there.

Advertising and follow up the klients
that have allready bought from you
is the key, that I am 100% sure of ;) .

Dannyboyonline
07-26-2004, 06:12 PM
Ok, thanks a lot Andre`, for finding time to reply to my questions in such a detailed manner.

Keep it up, and if there is anything i can do just ask :)

Andre
07-26-2004, 06:51 PM
I know this is probably not the answer you wanted,
but it is true :o

If you create the website you are in the prosess
of building, you should try to set aside some money
for ppc advertising (Only the major one like overture
and google) you will get quality clicks, and they have
Much better cheat controll.

They are more expensive then the new commers,
but you want get clicks from ptr programs and so on.

That is what I would have done if I was a reseller :unsure:

Ohhhh. and of course every free traffic exchange
there is :D

Dannyboyonline
07-27-2004, 12:21 PM
No Andre`, that answer was great, at least i know I am
going on the right direction. Thanks a lot Adre` :)

crash
01-01-2005, 09:38 PM
This is an old post, so I am curious how things are going?

Andre offers some great advice that I would like to add to.

Most importantly....fix your signature, every message you post is one more endless possibility to capture potential clients/referals, a messed up signature makes a viewer move on.

I am assuming the site in question is : http://www.gpteshop.d4a.com

Whats your markup on these packages?

I have been comparing what you are charging for one of your top selling ads "5002 7x 1/4 Cent Search Only E-mail HoboClicks.Com $2.15 " compared to what hoboclicks.com sells the same ads at there main site"1/4 Cent Email To Search Only Mail Members
US$0.55" 7 x .55(if I am reading your site right) = $3.85 a savings of $1.70! You need to emphasize that in the PTR market that is HUGE savings for paying advertisers!

If people realized what a savings it is to buy from you opposed to shopping elsewhere(and spending there valuable time) You will get many many repeat customers. And once sales pick up and you can show just how much you are selling new advertisers will come out of the woodwork to have you get customers for them.

As far as promoting, you can enter some type of JV or clickbank ect...

If the mark up allows it, get referals to advertise and promote your site offering 5% -- 10%(whatever) for any sales that they can capture for you. If you take this route be sure that as soon as you collect the advertisers money(even befor placing there ad) pay the member who brought the sale! Once someone knows that they WILL be paid they will work much harder to promote(and get you more referals to help promote). Not to mention you get each referals email addresse(very valuable! But never SPAM!) for future marketing. There are many ways to motivate people to work hard for you at little or no out of pocket cost.

As Andre wisely pointed out, if its free use it! Many search engines are free to submit to, unfortunately the click thru rate is extremely small, but since it is free(and you can get many submitters for free) why not do it, you may just get a couple more customers.

Traffic exchanges are another great advertising means, if you have the time use them to promote your URL for more free advertising. I would recommend joining a downline building program for this such as Profit Rally or Joesmo 200 since you can promote it for free on your site as well to any affiliates joining your sales team. If you can build referals thru these programs they will help to build credits the the traffic exchanges. Not to mention you can contact your downlines thru these programs .
FFA's are another great resources. While returns are not high, who cares they are free and easy.

Safelists should be a priority since the people using them are trying to advertise there messages, only a low percentage actually works, therefor people using them are always looking for cheap alternatives to get there message out.

PTRs are good to use in your instance(earnings used for advertising) if you are offering to have people sale for you, since it is that industry that you are targeting.

You should be contacting every single PTR owner out there! especially if they are NEW! Since they are usually struggling to get new advertisers to there sites and need money to pay there members, they may be willing to sell you spots at cost just so they can keep there members happy receiving paid mail. Many new sites lose valuable members due to being in prelaunch too long and receiving no mail. You should make a great sales letter for each one of the owners.(there are many resources available to help you do this.

I would reserve joining main search engines as a last resort, they can get to be costly, and should not be used until you can financially afford to. Generaly PTR owners travel in the same communities, you just need to tap into those communities. But if you can financially afford it,mainstream search engines can be helpful.

As well you should be setting up a feedback forum for affiliates who have been paid by you, more importantly a space for feedback from people who have purchased from you, and sold to you.

*** Fix your signature(always make sure they work!)
*** Make sure your website shows the valuable savings CLEARLY
*** If its affordable enter into some type of JV
*** Get people to sale/promote for you(this is a must to build any business for a mere 5% to 15% it is well worth it, since if they dont bring any sales...you dont pay.
*** Promote on as many traffic exchanges as possible
*** Promote in as many PTR forums as possible
*** Advertise with safelists!
*** Get a profesional looking sales letter and contact every single PTR owner out there!
*** Target New PTR's as soon as you see one, send them a sales letter.

Above all else, stay positive and be persistant!

Good Luck to your success!

crash

Rasmus
01-02-2005, 01:18 AM
I think DBO hasn't visited D4A after the forum software change, that explains the all the messed up signatures that many members have. :(

About contacting all PTR owners... It would be wiser to leave all those scam POs out. :p

crash
01-02-2005, 03:41 AM
About contacting all PTR owners... It would be wiser to leave all those scam POs out

Absolutely! Of course any informed person who would deal with these scam sites deserves what they get. Besides, those sites that offer $1 to $1 billion dollars per email seem to have a big enough membership without looking for more, and with the strong base membership they automatically draw the unscrupulus advertiser(I have no more respect for anyone who would pay to advertise at these sites than the ones who run the sites!)


Thanks for clarifying that one, I should have specified that!

All the best

crash